Not Everybody is a Size Zero

“I need to talk to you about something difficult”….This is the phrase that my husband uses to start a family discussion that may involve issues like my buying another horse without mentioning it to him.  My sensitive topic this month involves plus size riders.  It is no secret that Americans are getting larger. We’ve all read the reports of less healthy diets, lack of exercise etc, etc, but this is becoming a real challenge to fitting both the rider and the horse comfortably and correctly.

Here is the dilemma. One of the rules of saddle fitting dictates that the saddle should not extend beyond the 18th thoracic vertebrae. The reason for this is it corresponds with the placement of the end of the ribcage of the horse. This part of the spine has the best ability to support weight. After you get past the thoracic spine into the lumbar spine, there is nothing under this part of the spinal column to support weight. One of the other rules of saddle fit is that the rider must not be jammed into too small a seat.  When that happens, the rider will be pushed into the pommel and probably rolled forwards onto their pubic bones. The rider will be out of balance, and quite probably rigid and stiff as they attempt to rescue themselves from an unstable and painful posture.

So, what do we do with a large rider on a small or short coupled horse? Personally, I prefer to break the 18th vertebrae rule, because I think less damage gets done if the rider is sitting correctly, versus the alternative choice of the rider in an awkward position. But with that said, I’ll quote the line “compromises are rarely satisfactory to both sides” and in this case, the horse loses out.

The other saddle fitting rule that comes in question is the concept of a very large, generous weight bearing panel. This is great if you have enough back to support that larger panel, but if the horse’s back is short, any extension of the panel may cause some of that weight bearing surface to be too far back. In some cases, an upswept panel that curves up at the rear may be more comfortable for the horse than a sharp end of a thick gusset.

What can we do? I won’t even go into the health kick because I know that people are not overweight by choice. A bigger horse is not always a convenient choice, especially if you already have a mount that you are fond of. Riders can work on strengthening their core muscles and paying particular attention to excellent posture and balance in the saddle. Often times, saddles with a flatter, more open seat and a smaller kneeroll or block can be better for a heavier posterior and thigh. A leg that is heavy in the front will often be shoved back by a big thigh block, or worse yet, the leg may want to creep over the block causing the hips to lock, knees to open and toes to turn out.

There are several good protector pads that are available. We have been very happy with both the Thinline and Mattes pads. A horse that is being ridden by a heavier rider may benefit a lot from one of these pads. Remember, as you add more thickness of pad, you need to make sure that your saddle is wide enough to accommodate it.

From a schooling and training standpoint, take a bit of extra time to build your horse’s back. Regular riding, fitness, cavaletti, a focus on long and low work, hill climbing and gymnastics make a huge difference. A thoughtful and careful warm up is important, as is careful attention to your horse’s shoes and foot balance to make sure he is able to be the athlete you are asking him to be. Practice standing up in your stirrups and work on two point (even if you are a dressage rider!) After work, a good massage and chiropractic care also come into play so your horse is not stiff and tired.

And lastly, pay close attention to the panels on your saddle. A heavier rider will tend to make panels flatten out. If the rider is crooked in any way, a saddle can quickly become asymmetrical. Under normal riding conditions, we suggest checking the saddle once a year to determine if it needs to be reflocked or bumped up. Some saddles can go a very long time and never need attention but if you have any sense that the saddle is sitting crooked or is nose-diving, call your fitter for a checkup!

Riders and trainers….please share your anecdotes of successes (and otherwise) with us! We’d love to know what saddles have worked for you!

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4 Responses to “Not Everybody is a Size Zero”

  1. Barb Schwenk

    Wonderful article! I am 5’8″,weigh 165# with a 32″ inseam and 17″ thigh. I ride a sensitive but stalwart TB with high & long withers, and a short, scoopy back. I’ve tried at least 8 diff dressage saddles that don’t fit so far. She definitely can’t use those flat gusseted panels that stick out behind the cantle. We have recently switched to a 17.5″ close contact saddle with a curvy tree that we both love. I don’t feel locked in by the blocks, and she is now moving so freely and happily that I feel guilty for putting her through all this. I also use a Thinline saddle fitters pad under it. Am now considering a treeless with gullet for dressage. The quest continues….

  2. Edie Tschorn

    HI Barb,
    Thanks for your comments. I’m curious what model close contact you are riding in that seems to be working well for you? We have had mixed successes with treeless saddles. Some horses seem to really like them, but we have had concerns about spinal pressure, so a good pad with a ‘channel’ in the middle is essential.
    Edie

  3. Joanna Bligh

    I’m 5’10” with long legs and have a 15 h Morgan. Fitting my horse and me to the same saddle has been quite a challenge! She’s mainly a driving horse, but I do enjoy riding her. Over the years, I’ve ridden in lots of saddles, but found the Kieffer Aachen (all purpose) to be the most comfortable with a knee roll for my long legs and a deep seat for my tall upper body. A 17″ saddle is the largest that will fit my mare and luckily it fits me perfectly, as well. Now to the growth spurt-presently my mare is 15.1 in the hindquarters and 15 h at the withers. Only by using a Mattes correction pad with the stitching removed in the middle could I fill in the space under the middle of the saddle to prevent bridging from cantle to pommel panels, which caused chafing (hair removal and callousing) on her loin. So far it’s working. Anyone had this issue with their growing horse?

  4. Smartysmom

    Hi Edie!

    Since you have plenty of first hand experience with Marc’s and my saddle fitting adventures, do please add anything you think I’ve left out!

    I think a flat saddle with no blocks is the best solution to not compromising the 18th vertabra rule.

    I think there are penalties for compromising that rule you didn’t mention that make it very bad. It hurts the horse; he gets grouchy; he hollows his back; you get a downward spiral from there. The rider is also now seated behind the sweet spot (where nothing moves) and gets bounced around considerably by hip action; this leads to sitting in a chair seat which has it’s own deviltry. Frankly, if someone needs a deep seat to keep them secure, and big thigh blocks to keep their leg position, well, never mind.

    I also want to note that if the larger saddle size is because of long legs, you can get a long flap and/or more forward flap to accommodate it, which is actually a better solution, isn’t it?

    Next, as a plus size person, I gotta take exception to the “no one wants to be fat” kindly comment. Oh, boo hiss!. It is perfectly simple. Exercise, exercise, exercise. and discipline your eating. I have a concentration camp type metabolism (sp?). Once gained weight on 500 cal. a day; really! However, I also once stripped off 21 lbs in 20 days. Swam an hour before work, biked at lunch break for an hour, but the biggie was hooking my bike up to the generator to run the TV for 6 hours in the evening. And I gotta tell you, the endorphin rush was fabulous. Of course you have to give up everything else, but if you want to, you can. And after the first couple of days, I at least wasn’t hungry. I can honestly admit that I’m the size I am because I want to be; not willing to downsize my husband’s favorite part of my anatomy.

    I have a dear friend who is about 200 lbs. over weight. She just had barriatric surgery and has lost almost 100 lbs. And you know how that is happening? She isn’t eating. I have to ask myself, if she can do that now, why didn’t she just do it and skip the surgery. And I know a few people who had the surgery, would not give up eating, and stayed fat.

    I know, I know! I am not politically correct.

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